Armed Robbery Interview: BTW Scumbag was caught and jailed!
RCMP INTERVIEWER: Serious Crimes Unit
This is the statement of the Manager of California Streets, North Vancouver, B.C.,regarding the armed robbery atCalifornia Streets, 92 Lonsdale N.Vancouver.
RCMP: Q Dan, can you tell me what occurred today?
A: I am an employee of California Streets and I locked the front door at I then counted my float and removed the remaining cash from the cash register. I sorted the cheques and the cash out and added for totals in Visa and Mastercard. I started to prepare the deposit book and laid out the piles of cash, $100, $50, $20, $10, $5. There was banging at the door and there was some kids that I recognized outside so I thought that maybe this black guy was with them. I saw a black guy and he was the guy that was banging on the door. The black guy was holding up twenty dollars in his hand when I went to the door. I opened the door and said "What can I do for you'? He said "Do you mind if I get something for my kid" I said 'we' re closed already, do you have something in mind'.
He forced his way sort of into, the doorway as we talked and he ended up inside the doorway. As he came in the door, I noticed that he had a newspaper under his left armpit. He started looking around on the walls and slowly made his way into the foyer of the store. It was at this time that I realized I would help this guy and I locked the front door. I walked towards the till area behind the employee counter and I got about four or five feet and I saw him pull a gun out from where the newspaper was with his right band. He pointed it at me and he kept on coming closer with it. I kept on moving back and he kept coming toward me. He was saying 'Donít try anything stupid'. Iím taking all the money'. I said I wasnít, I wonít. 'Yes', what ever was required for answers to indicate I would help. We got to the back of the employee counter where the cash was laid out beside the till. I didnít know where the newspaper vent but as he held the gun at me with his right hand, be began to grab the cash of the counter with his left hand. He grabbed the cash up into his hand and said I want all the money. I said ďThat is all the money."
He said "Donít lie to me. Donít fuckin lie to me or Iíll shoot you. Iím not joking." Thatís when he pulled back the tip of the gun and cocked it. Thatís what really freaked me out and he pointed it over the counter right at my head. When be cocked it, it really freaked me out because thatís when I knew it was a real gun. He said donít lie to meĒ I said I. not. He said ďI want the rest of the money. I said ďOh yeah because I realized there was more cash for the float in the cash register. The door of the register was closed so I released it. I removed the fiveís and twoís from the float, $20 in fiveís and 18 in twoís. My hands were shaking and I gave him the fiveís and twoís and be grabbed the money in his left hand. He was still holding onto the money from before, he just released a couple of fingers and grabbed the rest of the money into a big ball in his hand. He said ďDonít try any tricks, no fancy stuff, lie down, donít phone the cops or Iíll kill you". He started to back up, still holding the gun in his hand, aiming it at me. He backed up as he was saying his closing words. Then he said 'donít phone the cops or Iíll kill you'. If I get caught, Iíll be back. I told him that the door waslocked. He stopped walking backwards and said youíre going to let me out. As I was getting the keys, he moved back towards the door near the pinball machine. I saw him pull down his black nylon pants and watched him put the cash into a loose pair of jeans into the front left pocket. The jeans were under the black pants. I came down with the keys as he was pulling the black nylon pants over the jeans. He held the gun in both hands and I unlocked the door with the keys. I donít remember what was said now but somehow I ended back inside and he ended up over by the door. Then be said ďBack away, move away, lay down, lay down!Ē. I turned around and he was out the door before I got all the way to the floor.
0: Describe the black male to me?
A:He was very black, male, early 20ís. He was 60Ē tall, 140 lbs. slightbut muscular build. He was wearing a dark colored baseball bat, cheapBlues Brothers style black sunglasses, a red nylon style windbreaker,black nylon pants over top of a pair of faded loose fitting jeans. Icould see that he had an elastic at the back of his hair and that it wasbraided all out from under the baseball cap. The hair was tucked down theback under the collar of his jacket.
0: Did you see any hair on his face?
0: Was his jacket pulled all the way down to his wrists? A:No I could see part of his forearms.
0: Any hair? A:No. The braids on his head would be the biggest giveaway but I donít remember any hair on his face or arms
0: Describe the gun to me? A:It was a two-tone grey semi-automatic pistol. The metal top was grey,like a flat grey. The handle was made of hydropilic rubber, no sliprubber. There was no chrome anywhere on the gun except for the very tip of the barrel which was shiny. At a glance it looked brand new, noscratches, very high tech looking.
0: Did it look real to you? A:Not at first. Iíve been a member of Rod and Gun Clubs since I was a kid.Iíve seen air pistols, BB guns, rifles, C02 point guns and it wasnít oneof these. Iíve never seen a gun like this before. Iíve never handled areal revolver or gun before but when he racked the top back, it suresounded like it was real to me. It scared the daylights out of me.
0: How big was the gun? A:It was about 7-1/2 to 8-i/2 1iiche~ long. The handle where he held the gunwas about 3-1/2Ē - 4Ē long. It was a full sized gun. lot a .22 caliber,more like a 9 mm.
Q:Did you fear that he might shoot you? A:The way that he spoke and the way that he acted and when he cocked it, Idid fear that he might shoot. Thatís what his threat was.
0: When he left, what direction did he go?
A:I donít know, I thought he might have gone west.
Q:Do you know how much money was taken? A:No I havenít done the days receipts yet. I would guess close to 2thousand dollars.
0: How long was he inside the store? A:Two or three minutes.
0: When he knocked at the door, what were you doing? A: I was preparing the deposit book.
0:Did he touch any of the cheques or bills that were out on the counterbeside the cash? A:No.
0: Did he go into the cash register himself? A:No. He made me do it.
0: After reading this over, is it accurate to the best of your knowledge? A:Yes.
0: Would you recognize him again if you saw him? A:Oh yes. Thatís all I had to do was look at him and the gun. I saw hiseyes through the sides of his glasses.